Nodame Cantabile Finale 3
January 31st, 2010 by Sylf
Back in my college days, I’ve had my share of recitals. And through those experiences, I’ve learned my likes and dislikes of composers and styles. I did not do well with Baroque style. Bach was the worst. I did not do well with Mozart either. Not that I was really good at piano overall… So, it makes me envious when I see Nodame or any of these guys can play all those pieces so well.
There’s one composer I haven’t touched yet – Liszt. His stuff is crazy difficult T_T
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Thanks a lot guys! <3
sweet!!! thanks for episode 3 :D
I agree, Back really is the worst.
Stupid Inventions.
Thank you!~
Bach* xD
The newspaper was worst than google translation ahah :]
Thanks for the ep!
Liszt… It always makes me proud when i read his name on a foreign site or hear his name from a foreigner (oh yep, I’m a Hungarian… Hungary is not in France but in Europe. Btw, Europe is a continent…)
THX for the episode!
Thanks guys ^^ As for those composers, I don’t care anyone since I can’t play any instruments. I just love to hear their musics.
Though I’m curious with this: which one is more difficult, Chopin or Liszt?
Listz is more difficult, although chopin’s ones are more popular. There was an even a movie about a guy who became crazy after completing one of the piece from the Listz.
That movie sounds much like Shine, but it was on Rachmaninoff’s 3rd concerto.
I recently read some of a biography on Liszt. It attributed Liszt’s obsession with difficult compositions to witnessing a performance of Italian violin wiz, Paganini. After seeing what kind of crazy pieces Paganini wrote for himself (caring so much about his composition that only he could play his pieces), I could see how some people could pick up such obsession.
Toward the end of the 1st season of Nodame, Chiaki played his Mephisto Waltz as a part of graduation recital. I went to check it out… It’s impossible to play for amateur like me >_< Same thing was true to his Hungarian Rhapsody no.1. Even the abridged version was challenging.
Yeah, I got a chance to hear some Liszt during a music class in college. I’d been removed from seriously playing music for years, but what I heard seriously made me realize that while I may have been OK at music back in the day, I was nowhere near the same solar system as the real virtuosos out there.
So, what’s up with the op?
“A, dounika narisou sa” is “it seems someway it will go well”, how became “this is driving me crazy”?
Also “kizukeba kimi de chou-manseki” means something like “before i notice, my mind is full of you (or I’m full of you)”… in italian we have a term for manseki, but i don’t know about english, so I’ve gone with “full of”… certainly all the seat are full of you seems quite stupid, while the meaning in japanese is clear…
…and i’ve just finished saying my friend you’re the best group out there, i’m kind of disappointed…
“dounika narisou” DOES mean “I’m going crazy.”
If you read the singer’s comments and such about this op, you know that this is a song about his first love. He’s fallen in love with a girl, but he’s too shy to come out and tell her. But the feeling is so strong that the whole thing is driving him crazy. It makes total sense, and it fits perfectly well.
If you want to point out translation accuracy, do know this – I am 100% native Japanese speaker. It’s very difficult to prove me wrong, as arrogant as it might sound.
If i can learn something, specially from i native speaker (i knew this was the case with frostii;)), i’m always mindopened… btw do tell me, pls, why “dou ni mo naranai” is something like “it won’t go (well)”, or “this is goin’ nowhere”, while dou ni ka narisou means somethin completely different.
Ah, I know nothing about the singer’s comment (i would appreciate if you can hand me a link: i love comments that come from the author itself), but imho such a “slightly optimistic line” seems to fit well. Finally, you didn’t say anything about kizukeba…
p.s. You don’t sound arrogant at all, Frostii is just to good for that being an exaggeration, but… i met a native speaker who couldn’t read “koko”, ’cause it was written with the symbol for kana repetition, so i always try to be 100% sure about everything (specially if i’ve found it online).
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It is the difference of subject. In “dou nimo nara nai,” the subject is “joukyou” — situation: no matter what you try, you can’t bring the situation under control. “dou ka shiteru” is, if you translate it very literally, “something is happening.” Which usually means something unusual is at hand. Something is strange. Something is not right. So, when someone say “omae, douka shiteru yo,” it means “there’s something wrong with your head” or “what is wrong with you?!?!” The subject here is people. And their brains. It’s one of those idiomatic phrases, which you just have to learn. Which, I know, drives some people up a wall.
dou mo shimasen
XD
>>Which, I know, drives some people up a wall.
You’re not as subtle as you think, but still thanks for your answer… sorry if i’ve driven you up a wall… -_- (then again there’s another example so maybe the subject wasn’t me…^^)
It was a big pun – my dry sense of humor wrote that line.
“dou nika nari sou” is an idiom.
“driving someone up a wall” is an idiom.
They are idioms that mean “turning someone crazy.”
And “learning all the idioms” is one of the things that can turn people crazy when learning a foreign language.
Please make sure in the future to categorize Nodame releases on the Nodame Cantabile category. For several days I thought the third episode hadn’t come out yet because I had only the Nodame category open.
I’m a big fan of Liszt’s work. I compare it with Chopin’s Nocturnes and – of course – Waltzes, but I like the big, flashy style of classical music that Liszt, Tchaikovsky, Diabelli, etc. perfected.
Oh, and for the record: I’m not a huge fan of Bach overall, but his Inventions are brilliant (assuming you’re talking about J.S., not one of his 20 children). The intricate play between left and right hands, the harmonies and chord structures that are only apparent with personal knowledge of the piece…the man was amazing. You look at his work and see thousand of pages of sixteenth notes, but it really is quite expressive.
The way I look at it, Liszt sometimes wrote pieces for technical sake – or else why would he write a piece like Transcendental Etude? Chopin could write technically demanding pieces too, if his emotion drove him that way, like his Revolution etude.
Now… I’m going to shift the focus a bit.
Did anyone notice a definite improvement in animation style in musician’s movement? At Nodame’s concert, her hand movement was more natural and fluid, and emotional. Up until the second season, I never saw her hands and the rest of her body together when she plays the piano. But it’s different in this season. It made me really happy when I realized that tiny detail. It’s tiny, but this production crew really care about the show.
Personally, I love Bach and the Baroque era in general. Though I really enjoy when eras are in transition from one to another and overlap. So Sylf, no Bach, Baroque, or Mozart for you, eh… so what/who DO you like then? Perhaps John Cage’s 4′33? That piece makes me think I’ve gone deaf.
4′33 really isn’t my cup of tea. I do enjoy some prepared piano pieces. But when it comes to prepared piano, I enjoy performances by jazz pianists, notably Chick Corea.
But playing the pieces myself, I tend to focus more in the romantic era pieces, starting with Beethoven. Then, I also like to venture to more modern pieces as well. In my college days, my lessons included Brahms, Chopin, Schubert, Grieg, Mendelssohn, etc… Also tried Debussy, Takemitsu, Poulenc, Ginastera, Albeniz… Then there were some mandatory Bach and Mozart… Oh yeah, because of my jazz influence, Gershwin’s preludes for piano were fun too. After graduating, I also found some fun-to-play pieces by Sibelius, Rubinstein, Shostakovich…
I can’t keep up with my hobbyist level practice!
Very nice Sylf. I too love jazz; well, really, lots and lots of periods and styles, and cultures. My experience is slightly different as my degree was in voice (I was Mus Ed so you get exposure to each family in addition to your main instrument and piano, which I do love). I was actually joking about the John Cage piece.
Mostly I was wondering if you would know what I was talking about. It’s more of a statement, experimental piece rather than purely musical. In my opinion.
Though I am familiar with Corea, it is in name recognition only. So I will go have a listen. Thanks for all your work as always!
em.. please help… what piece of Mozzart plays Rui in 7:30?? i realy want to play it…
It’s Sonata No. 9 in D major, K 311, 3rd movement.